Todd Bentley at Morningstar
For those who don’t know, Todd Bentley will be minstering at Rick Joyner’s MorningstarMinistry base in Fort Mill, South Carolina. They are billing it as a healing and impartation service. It is one night only, this Friday night, August 8. I find it interesting that Rick Joyner is so closely aligning himself with Todd. Rick has a very well known, international ministry and to host Todd, given what some consider to be the controversial nature of his ministry, speaks volumes of Todd, as well as Rick’s own security. By security, I mean the fact that Rick knows who he is in the Lord’s heart and His kingdom and is not swayed by unfounded human criticism. Surely he will take many hits on blogs and other forms of opinion sharing. Oh well. Check out the service on GODTV’s website – they will carry it live for the world to see. Also, pay attention to what Rick has to say about Todd. I’m guessing it will be a great lesson in apostolic leadership, as well as a clear picture of Rick’s security in the Lord. Be there or be square.
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Excuse me Jesus is the chief stone, the cornerstone, I mistyped
Conerstone and a few other words, please use this version
I read that Joyce Meyer said God would never allow her to be
deceived by a lie, she would hear a bell inside so loud that she and everybody else would hear it. If this is true, which it is not, Jesus would not have said: see to it you are not deceived.Now how to see to it: to compare what is said with what the Good Shepherd ( the cornerstone) said, and what the apostles ( the foundation) said. If it is not according to these words, it must be criticized, and this criticism is not human unfounded criticism, it is God ordained investigation. Signs and wonders are never something to run after, the devil throws (false and lying) signs and wonders around to attract those whom he wants to devour. God allmighty gives signs and wonders to confirm His Word, and to answer prayers which are done by His children that please Him, who pray according to the will of God, in the name of Jesus Christ and done in agreement. There is no such thing as a transferrable anointing, there is an anointing obedient beleivers receive, and this is the teaching anointing of the Holy Spirit, leading in the full truth, it is transferred from the Lord to His beloveds, given to them who obey. This transferability looks like the roman armies who marched and priests were sprinkling water on the troups, and it was believed those romans became christians through this baptism.Watch therefore, and be like the Bereans, who whould investigate the scriptures if the teachings were according to the Word of God.Pray without ceasing, at every occasion in the Spirit, watching there unto with all supplication and prayer for all saints,
Eric - August 8, 2008 at 12:28 pm
He didn’t say anything about anointing in the post. He didn’t say anything about transferring either. Are you sure you commented on the correct blog. He said that they were gonig to praying for healing (very biblical) and having impartation (also biblical, see the new testiment references to laying on of hands.)
Also the bible does not say the there is ONLY a teaching anointing, it says that the anointing TEACHS us all things. That is a fairly signficant difference.
kj - August 8, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Sued? For his views on Todd Bentley. Hardly.
Comment by Polycarp | August 8, 2008
Reference the inapplicable and overly simplifed comments of yours..
Undeniably too many of the big TV Evangelist, big Pentecostal preachers ,have started to sue their critics on the net too, Benny Hinn included..
“Great Florida Outpouring – Endorsements Posted on June 17, 2008. A number of leaders in the Body of Christ are going to be in Lakeland on June 23th to bless the Outpouring. Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, C. Peter Wagner, John and Carol Arnott, among others, will be there according to the announcement Todd made last night.” 20 selective comments so far.. real negative comments are excluded.
Now ”Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry? Posted by Job on May 29, 2008 Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers including John Arnott and Steve Long – are upset for being exposed for what they truly are sons of disobedience and sons of hell and are taking at least one person to court contrary to scriptures to protest about his online books which are too hot for them to handle! It’s also amazing that we have operating freely in Toronto Canada, liars, perjurers and thieves in Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship including John Arnott and Steve Long with impunity or without rebuke from anybody about their financial crimes, their hate crimes, lies and perjury!
But it’s not amazing that these scoundrels, liars, and perjurers would not submit as per “The order of Justice James H. Clarke of January 15, 2008” which stated “ THIS COURT ORDERS THAT the Defendants shall serve on the Plaintiff by email and file their Statement of Defense within ten days,” a Statement of Defense to this former member regarding his $100 million dollar Lawsuit Court File No: 6447/07 filed in Milton, Ontario, with the Superior Court of Ontario and now revised to $ 300 million.
And if this Christian nonprofit charity TACF and its executives John Arnott and Steve Long can defy and ignore the order of Justice James H. Clarke and do whatever they want so can every other Canadian. Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship sets by its example that any Christian can be lawless, liars, thieves, and perjurers and not respect the rule of law!”
Hey I have said it there are no winners, here, the pastors, and supporter from both sides, lie, distort, bash in their endorsement, or criticism, and present mostly partial or half truths it seems.. Anyone think still that having John and Carol Arnott there is a good endorsement? Not me!!!
It was, is clearly evident, in this present ungodly Internet wars, in the Ontario Queen’s Commercial court actions between the Toronto Airport Christian fellowship Church, it’s pastors too, and Walter Kambulow of Burlington, Ontario, that both sides are involved in revengeful acts, wanting now to pay each other back through the courts now as well. What anyone still foolish to believe any of them are even now real Christians? And Walter Kambulow firstly admitting to being guilty of unintentionally violating a Canadian court order is not the same thing as any of the parties now yet being found guilty of deliberate libel, or slander.. but so far it is clearly apparent that both sides here still really are not playing fairly, respecting the spirit or the latter, intent of the Canadian court orders, and yes both sides Toronto Airport Christian fellowship Church, it’s pastors too, and Walter Kambulow of Burlington, Ontario undeniably are still not at all good examples of Christianity so far too. A clearly eye for an eye approach by both parties still is clearly a carnal approach and not a Christian one. You would have firstly thought the Church pastors themselves would have set a better example here too. I rightfully still have no respect for any of them now too.
In love the unacceptable Pentecostal bashers, critics under disguise of supposedly posting the truth, who mostly still do use the same unoriginal, ungodly, lame-brained, fool’s types of arguments, are not only clearly dishonest, uninspired, boring but they do also mostly have a personal agenda that is so transparent that sadly they are are an embarrassment, their agenda clear involves the fact want to uplift themselves, their own gospel, sect, denomination mostly still as well. In love they should really read and practice the whole Bible firstly themselves.
Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval, permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely headed towards divorce wars as well..
Many many pastors do wrongfully still think that the citizens complaints about them is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor responses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations and too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook. The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also preach.
so why was walter kambulow sued?
be cause he said that bad pastors were bad friends of Todd Bentley or what?
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/
http://thechurchofjesuschrist.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/finally-revival-evangelist-to-fold-his-lakeland-tent/
thenonconformer - August 9, 2008 at 7:49 am
This is really confusing – did you post to the blog you intended to?!
1Intercessor - August 9, 2008 at 4:49 pm
I love how blogging is something ‘in’ at the IHOP-KC. It is fun to read various people’s perspectives and opinions. And Bill is so high tech!!
Love ya Bill, we miss you too.
Monty - August 10, 2008 at 4:29 am
I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you down the road!
Alex - August 12, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Hi Monty. Thanks for the comment – I miss you guys too!
1intercessor - August 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Todd Bentley tried to be a godly persons.. just cause he sins like you and I doe into make him a false prophets.. otherwise we all are going to hell now too.
I think few people understand what the definition of a real New testament prophet is or what prophecy as well is.. it is not always foretelling the future.. rather it is telling people what God has on his mind today for them to know.. and while the New testament prophets are the same Holy spirit gifted categories of elders as pastors, evangelists too, few people now expect all pastors to be free of sin or perfect but hypocritically they expect all of the prophets to be perfect.. how absurd and yes they’re are much too many demonic led persons who promote hatred against Pentecostals and looks for any excuse to bash them as well.. Let the 2 or 3 prophets speak and led the others judge.. there is a reason for this.. there is no just man that doeth good and sinneth not, and I have yet to meet one prefect Christian besides Jesus Christ.. even Apostle peter himself was often wrong in what he had said and was rebuked by both Jesus Christ and Apostle Paul now too.. being wrong did not mean he was not an apostle still though.. wisen up you false critics..
I have been both Baptist and Pentecostal too. Now about Pentecostals.. I have never been hated so much anywhere by any religious groups as I have been by brethren and Baptist Christians, pastors when they find out I am a Pentecostals… their evident fruits of hatred alone shows how false they themselves now are too. they clearly had, do manifest the opposite of the fruit of the Holy sprit which is love.
Clearly Self-complacency, Self-deception about one’s own adequacies and Pretention, Deception of self-aggrandizement, Legalism, Unbelief in God still manifest as being the basic causes for the visible lack of available Biblical Power amongst so many Christians, Churches even today!
(John 15:5 KJV) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
(Mat 6:13 KJV) And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
(Mat 9:8 KJV) But when the multitude saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.
(Mat 10:1 KJV) And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
(Mat 22:29 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
(Mat 28:18 KJV) And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
(Mark 3:15 KJV) And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils:
(Luke 1:35 KJV) And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
(Luke 4:14 KJV) And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
(Luke 4:32 KJV) And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.
(Luke 4:36 KJV) And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out.
(Luke 5:17 KJV) And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them.
(Luke 9:43 KJV) And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God.
(Luke 10:19 KJV) Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
(Luke 12:5 KJV) But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
(Acts 1:8 KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
(Acts 3:12 KJV) And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk? (Acts 3:16 KJV) And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
(Acts 4:7 KJV) And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?…10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
(Acts 4:33 KJV) And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
(Acts 6:8 KJV) And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
(Rom 1:4 KJV) And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
(Rom 1:16 KJV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
(Rom 15:13 KJV) Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
(Rom 15:19 KJV) Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.
(Rom 16:25 KJV) Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
(1 Cor 1:18 KJV) For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
(1 Cor 1:24 KJV) But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
(1 Cor 2:4 KJV) And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
(1 Cor 2:5 KJV) That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
(1 Cor 4:20 KJV) For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
(2 Cor 4:7 KJV) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
(2 Cor 12:9 KJV) And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
(2 Cor 13:4 KJV) For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.
(Eph 1:19 KJV) And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
(Eph 3:20 KJV) Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
(Eph 6:10 KJV) Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
(1 Th 1:5 KJV) For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
(2 Tim 1:7 KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
(2 Tim 3:5 KJV) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(2 Pet 1:3 KJV) According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
(2 Pet 1:16 KJV) For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
(Rev 18:1 KJV) And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
(Rev 19:1 KJV) And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
(Rev 20:6 KJV) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Clearly Self-complacency, Self-deception about one’s own adequacies and Pretention, Deception of self-aggrandizement, Legalism, Unbelief in God still manifest as being the basic causes for the visible lack of available Biblical Power amongst so many Christians, Churches even today!
In many churches, the Pastoral Library are filled with ungodly men’s books, commentaries, and they wrongfully too have replaced the Bible as the power of God
God is not looking for Liberals, mere Librarians or Historians but He is looking for godly men and women willing to be filled with the Holy Spirit and next being seriously committed to praying for a Revival from on High.
Increased personal Bible reading, prayer and obedience are clear signals that we personally are pressing toward maturity in Jesus Christ. For we cannot hope to lead any of the others to where we ourselves have refused to go..
thenonconformer - September 7, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Dear Brother Todd:
You are most welcome to preach Gospel in INDIA by SOAP-SOUP-SALVATION Method.Sowing the Gospel seeds through SOCIAL WORK.
Rtn.Luben Kumar - March 12, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Dear Brother Todd:
we are prayinh for you and your ministry.In India we are sowing Gospel seeds through social work(SOAP-SOUP-SALVATION method)
Rtn.Luben Kumar - March 12, 2009 at 4:36 pm